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* 9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public
* BBC Censored Benazir Bhutto's Reports that Bin Laden Had Been Murdered
* American politics: the choice between 'most bad' and 'not really very good'
* The 'Conspiracy of Rich Men' Who Pulled Off 9/11 and Other GOP Atrocities
* 9/11 Commissioner Slips Up: Pentagon Struck by Missile
* How 'Suspicious' Plane Crashes and Assassinations Benefit the Right Wing
* Last Chance to Indict Bush and Cheney for the Mass Murders of 9/11?
* The US Army Document That Proves the US is the World's Number One Sponsor of World Terrorism
* Scientists Explain Why People Vote For Republicans
* George W Bush Authorized 9/11 Attacks Says Government Insider
* The United States and the International Court
* Forum Re: The Prosecution of George W. Bush, Robert H. Jackson Foundation
* Terrorism is Worse Under GOP Regimes
* BBC: Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
* They Lied About 9/11
* 'Lucky Larry' Silverstein Makes a Killing With 9/11 Terrorism!
* Explosives Found in 9/11 Dust
* Dutch TV show exonerates Osama bin Laden
* French professor sacked over 9/11 'conspiracy' theory
* 9/11 Security Courtesy Marvin Bush
* Marvin Bush: Connections to 9/11
* 9/11 Commission Memo: 'Executive Branch Minders' Intimidation of Witnesses'
* Security, Secrecy and a Bush Brother
* Thermite
* Pentacon
* KS" I make up storiesPublished Articles on Buzzflash.net
The Daily Growler said...The Daily Growler blog has been saying 9/11 is a big lie for three years now--Bush a natural born liar--a privileged little rich brat, spoiled rotten by his mother who taught him that his father wasn't all he was cracked up to be. The writer for the Daily Growler grew up with the Bushes in West Texas--knows them for the lying bastards they've been since the Bush family had to cover up the fact that Prescott Bush was in cahoots with the Nazi--the Bush family did Hitler's banking in the US for him.
But then, all the people involved in 9/11 are big-time liars--big-time rich--members of the Power Elite. You can't overcome them with words--only with revolutionary action.
The Daily Growler
2:43 PM
marain said...Thank you for continuing to keep this issue up front in your blog, Len. It is my sincere hope that a real investigation will one day take place so that the true perpetrators will finally be made to pay. They are criminals not only for what they did on 9/11, but also for shamelessly using their fabricated story to justify further crimes, the greatest of which was starting the illegal war in Iraq where, by one estimate, more than 1.3 million Iraqi citizens lost their lives.
9:19 PM
mick said...America owes me money ...I want compensation; every time I fly I have to pay a terror tax ...the war on terror is bogus. And imagine what it is like for people who have had family members killed in the war on terror !
Who benefits ?
Greedy pricks who sell weapons and own stocks in those companies.
They don't give a fuck about "truth" or "justice." These same people are the ones with the power to authorize a real investigation, QED, there will never be a full investigation. America is a fascist state now controlled by greedy psychopaths who are above the law.
3:41 AM
Len Hart said...The Daily Growler sez...
The writer for the Daily Growler grew up with the Bushes in West Texas--knows them for the lying bastards they've been since the Bush family had to cover up the fact that Prescott Bush was in cahoots with the Nazi--the Bush family did Hitler's banking in the US for him.
I also hail from West Texas where I interviewed Bush Sr on occasion for the news department of one of the leading AM outlets covering Odessa/Midland. Sr was running for the Senate at the time.
Later, in Houston, TX, my path crossed that of Sr again.
all the people involved in 9/11 are big-time liars--big-time rich--members of the Power Elite. You can't overcome them with words--only with revolutionary action.
Of that there is no doubt. Welcome to the 'Cowboy'.
marain sez..
It is my sincere hope that a real investigation will one day take place so that the true perpetrators will finally be made to pay.
It has become clear to me that if the Obama administration were going to properly investigate 9/11, it would have already begun. The 'power elite' referenced by Growler is the AXIS of the MIC/K-STREET (its brokers)/CIA. They are the ones who call the shots. The last President to pledge that he would 'smash the CIA into a thousand pieces' was murdered in --not surprisingly --TEXAS!
mick sez ...
every time I fly I have to pay a terror tax
Yep! There's BIG MONEY in terrorism for both those who 'wage it' and those who merely CLAIM to! Just ask Larry Silverstein. HE MADE A KILLIN'.
4:21 AM
Anonymous said...please check out the updated Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED
http://800poundgorilla.100webspace.net/geeklog//staticpages/index.php?page=911
5:05 AM
Anonymous said..."The truth is not important, only what people believe to be the truth is what counts." - Mass murderer Henry Kissinger.
5:14 AM
hANOVER fIST said...This is incredible...I'm going to pass this on to some muttonheads and see what occurs.
7:46 AM
Anonymous said..."The truth is not important, only what people believe to be the truth is what counts." - Mass murderer Henry Kissinger.
Well Henry is right. Look at how many people flock to the "TV" for their info and regurgitate what they believe is the truth. Just about all of us (including me) believed what happened that day. But only a small few of us know some of the story behind 11 of 9 years after. It is the people that choose to blindly follow "their government" as they strip most of our freeedoms away. Did anyone protest when Bush "stole" the 2001 [s]election? No. the 2004 [s]election? No. Presidents are puppets and pawns and our votes don't count anyway. It is all the people who want to shout democrat or republican without even giving thought that the party system is one in the same and every year we choose the lesser evil. The "government" does not function for the benefit of its citizens but a higher ruling evil elite, that dictates to the mASSES what we should eat, drink, wear, drive, watch, and listen to without question. Now everyone wants to shout "NEW WORLD ORDER." This is it. It has been here for years. Now we just pick our poison. It is time we look at ourselves for letting it get this far. Turn the "TV" off and start thinking for yourself.
7:50 AM
Anonymous said...No offense --
What happened to all the passengers that were supposed to be on the plane that hit the Pentagon.
ANYONE KNOW? HAVE A CLUE ?
Explain THAT to me and maybe I will look into it.
8:16 AM
Len Hart said...Anonymous sez..,
No offense --What happened to all the passengers that were supposed to be on the plane that hit the Pentagon.
No offense --
BUT IF YOU WISH TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE PASSENGERS, I SUGGEST YOU GET UP OFF YOUR ASS AND DEMAND THAT BUSH BE COMPELLED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN FRONT OF A FEDERAL GRAND JURY JUST PRIOR TO HIS INDICTMENT FOR MASS MURDER AND HIGH TREASON!
No offense --but your's the typical DUMBASS defense of Bushco.
If Bushco and his gang of liars CANNOT EXPLAIN the dissapearance of a fuckin 757 and all the passengers, then his IDIOTIC THEORY must be consigned to the toilet where it belongs.
As a matter of fact, it was the UTTER FAILURE OF THE OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY to explain the OBVIOUS HOLES in every Bushco statement re: 9/11 that convinced me that anything said by Bush, the White House, the Pentagon, indeed, the US GOVT with regard to 9/11 was a pack of malicious and treasonous lies.
8:44 AM
Anonymous said..."9/11 PROOF that WTC Twin Towers were pulverized by High Tech EXPLOSIVES"
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11:10 AM
Len Hart said...Anonymous sez...
9/11 PROOF that WTC Twin Towers were pulverized by High Tech EXPLOSIVES"
That is consistent with the now established facts 1) that the towers could not have been brought down by airliners, and 2) that at least TWO of the airiners were not flying that day.
Bush's lies are full of holes. Moreover, Bush ordered evidence of these crimes of mass murder DESTROYED. This is obstruction of justice --whether he ordered 911 or did not!
If trials are ever held, hundreds may be liable for hanging. These are crimes of mass murder and high treason.
Let the trials begin.
I will happily volunteer my services to the prosecution.
11:27 AM
Anonymous said...Having trouble sourcing this Kissinger quote, "The truth is not important, only what people believe to be the truth is what counts."
Be sure not to make this 9/11 conspiracy about GOP and act like Obama would actually pursue something on this. If you think ANY of this is about Left vs Right, you're a FOOL. It's not Left vs Right, it's the STATE vs YOU.
11:33 AM
Anonymous said...I never believed the government version of 9/11 but what has bothered me all these years is WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY ON THOSE PLANES??? Did they just take them some where and kill them?? I want to know!!!!
Editor's note: This is what I have always wanted to know. It is my understanding, however, that Barbara Olsen, who was supposedly on the flight that the US government claims hit the Pentagon, had a face lift and is living in Sweden.
2:34 PM
Len Hart said...Re:
If you think ANY of this is about Left vs Right, you're a FOOL. It's not Left vs Right, it's the STATE vs YOU
I agree that it is the STATE v YOU but the STATE is the result of a 'mentality' that buys into it and supports it.
It might have been about Left v Right IF there had been a LEFT WING in America. But there had not been since about 1911, the year Clarence pleaded the McNamara Bros 'guilt' of trying to blow up the L.A. Times building.
There are, however, TWO distinct mentalities in America --and I am AGAINST one of them. I am against the mentality that buys into and supports the 'state' or 'officialdom' of any sort, a mentality that concludes (stupidly) that because the 'passengers' cannot be accounted for the OFFICIAL THEORY must be true.
The official theory cannot explain EITHER the missing plane OR the missing passengers. It defies logic and common sense to conclude that a THEORY is true because it CANNOT EXPLAIN SOMETHING. It is the job of any theory to EXPLAIN. It is insane or stupid or both to believe a theory because it DOES NOT explain.
This breach of logic is so egregious that it is best described as a mental illness.
Secondly, CARL JUNG estimated that as much as 30 to 40 percent of EVERY population is certifiably psychopathic. In America, that 'mentality' is associated with Bush's base and Jung would most certainly have concurred.
At last --both Dr Gustav Gilbert who 'counseled' the Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg and Hannah Arendt, a founder of the New School for Sociology in New York were students of EVIL.
I believe that the personalities they discovered in their researches may be equated with Jung's "thirty to forty per cent" and share the personality traits that we find among the Nazis studied by both Gilbert and Arendt. These traits, I will wager, are likewise STATISTICALLY HIGH among the GOP and every other 'right wing' group in America.
2:35 PM
Len Hart said...Re: WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY ON THOSE PLANES??? Did they just take them some where and kill them?? I want to know!!!!
Any VALID theory of 9/11 must explain BOTH the missing plane and the missing people and the facts that neither flight was in the air that day.
Buth's theory does none of those things. It is a crock of shit!
I repeat: the holes in Bush's theory cannot be cited as reasons to believe it! That's absurd and, if a lawyer should ever try that in court, he/she would be laughed out of court and rightly so.
We all want to know what happened to the people!
It is a question that should be put bluntly to Bush when he is compelled to testify before a Federal Grand Jury investigating his complicity in the crimes of mass murder and high treason.
2:56 PM
norwegian said...No planes were hijacked on 9/11. The complicit TV networks aired forged imagery on that fateful morning. Please watch my full research with an open mind and draw your own conclusions :
SEPTEMBER CLUES playlist :
http://tinyurl.com/septcluesThanks for your kind attention
simon shack
2:31 AM
Geoffrey said...Len, there is a slight flaw with your logic. We have no idea who made the entry or what their intent was or whether the entry is accurate.
Anyone with a computer with Internet access could have left that Wiki entry. It could have been done as a prank, who knows. You are acting like it means something, when it means almost nothing.
To prove what you are asserting, that there were no flights 11 or 77 that day, takes quite a bit more evidence.
8:20 AM
Len Hart said...re: Len, there is a slight flaw with your logic. We have no idea who made the entry or what their intent was or whether the entry is accurate.
Nonsense! There is no 'flaw in the logic' because there is no logic other than that involved in READING.
The WIKI entry was revised and the IP address of those making the revision is AMERICAN AIRLINES. Period! Moreover, the NTSB data is consistent with the 'revised' entry.
The burden of proof is shifted to those who ASSERT that Flights 11 and 77 were flying. There is not only NO EVIDENCE that they were, there is mounting evidence that they were not. Certainly --NO AIRLIER WRECKAGE was EVER recovered at the Pentagon. Anyone believing that it was should simply: SHOW ME THE WRECKAGE!
I stand by the story.
3:56 AM
Anonymous said...If flights AA 11 and AA 77 weren't in the air where are the passengers that were supposed to have been on those flights and perished?
Where is the passenger manifest? This is absolute nonsense that AA11 and AA77 were not in the air. Do you think that the government could really fake the deaths of all the passengers?!
Correct me if I'm wrong or am I missing something here?
However there is a another possibilility that AA11 and AA77 were hijacked by remote control and then ditched into the ocean with said passengers and different aircrafts plunged into the Trade Towers. These planes could have been remote controlled and piloted into the TT"s. But what do I know?! Ugh!
6:38 PM
Len Hart said...By the way --the AA entry is supported by the NTSB data.
Secondly, it is consistent with the FACT that NO WRECKAGE traceable to a 757 was EVER recovered from the PENTAGON.
Now --if YOU think there was such wreckage, SHOW ME!
Show me the wreckage!
Show me authoritative proof that either flight was in the air AT ALL.
2:39 AM
Len Hart said...NOTICE:
I have dealt REPEATEDLY with the mantra: '...but where are the passengers?'
If you direct this question to me, you're talking to the wrong guy!
If BUSH can not or has never adequately explained this STUPID THEORY that's just another fatal flaw in his STUPID, FALLACIOUS THEORY ---not mine.
In legal terms, the question 'assumes facts NOT in evidence.' One of the 'facts' assumed is that there even WAS a hijacking that day. Who sez? Bush??? Sorry, I wanna see wreckage!
Another 'fact' that is MERELY ASSUMED is that there WERE passengers? Last time I checked if there were NO SUCH FLIGHTS, THERE WERE PASSENGERS. You cannot conclude that there WAS such a flight unless you produce EVIDENCE (bodies, autopsy reports, for example) that that there WERE passengers.
People --STOP BEING STUPID ON THIS POINT!
If you think there were bodies or passengers, SHOW ME! SHOW THE OFFICIAL AUTOPSY REPORT!
Bear in mind, Dr. Olmsted, who sought an autopsy report, made the point that a PASSENGERS LIST proves nothing. It's just a list of names that ANYONE could have typed up.
As Conan Doyle's S. Holmes said: "When you have eliminated the impossible than what remains however improbable MUST be the truth!"
We can ELIMINATE the official conspiracy. There is neither A SHRED OF EVIDENCE in its support nor in proof of it!
Get over it!
And support efforts to TRULY INVESTIGATE THIS CRIME and bring charges against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et al.
2:52 AM
Len Hart said...A final shot:
If you BELIEVE that there were such flights AND that there were passengers, then PUT BUSH on the witness stand in front of a FEDERAL GRAND JURY and put to him the question: 'what was the fate of the passengers on flights 77 and 11?'
The statement re: passengers ASSUMES there were flights!
It would be very interesting to learn how he might manage to escape his experience without indictments for 1) MASS MURDER; 2) PERJURY; 3) OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
2:58 AM
Len Hart said...RE: anonymous,
The idiot who wrote: "By the way, if you think that Osama is going to initiate any actual investigation into 9/11, then you're as dumb as a number of the posters that you've gone after. He's in bed with the lot of them."
Where did I state or imply that Obama would begin such an investigation?
Why do you ASSUME bullshit?
What have I written and what did you DIVINE that you would make your utterly baseless and perhaps idiotic accusation?
Obviously --you have never visited or read my blog or you could not have accused me of believing anything OTHER THAN what I have written and proven: that the US govt is owned and operated by what I have called (for lack of a better term) the AXIS OF MIC/K-STREET. Since the murder of JFK, mere 'Presidents' have served at their pleasure, much as did Roman Emperors the Praetorian guard.
At last, I have lost patience with the results and consequences of the decline of American education of which you are a rude and perfect example.
4:14 AM
Anonymous said...From Belgium,
Len I can understand your frustration when people keep asking the same question after they have had the answer several times over. My question is more of a moot point regarding your statement “It is time to insist that a Federal Grand Jury investigate every count of high treason, mass murder and domestic terrorism that was perpetrated upon the people of the US by the Bush administration………”. My understanding is that High Treason can only be committed when the treasonous person count[r]y is officially at war; otherwise it is only run of the mill ordinary treason. It might be kind of cute to hoist Bush et al on his petard of their phoney war on terror but that was not instigated until after 9/11, and anyway the meaning is that the enemy is a state or country not a concept. Iraq doesn’t count since the question is of an American President acting against his own people and the seventeen Arabs are superfluous to this.
11:42 AM
mick said...just curious, does anybody know off hand which flights left which airports and from which "gates." It is not improbable that passengers for two flights could be put onto one plane...if the gate configuration was right you could do it with very little chance of detection...and I've flown over a hundred time and have never ask the person sit next to me "where are you going"...
12:47 PM
Anonymous said...Before the internet there was a lack of information. Now there is too much information. It has become like water, it assumes any shape. The people behind 9/11 use this to confuse, spread doubt. That picture of the women looking out of the hole in the tower could have been a fake; the lack of plane parts could be a conspiracy theory myth. It's so easy to spread doubt, lies, etc. Like touching your reflection in a pond, the truth breaks into a million pieces of CIA lies.
3:36 PM
Anonymous said...I'm stunned that it took this long for the airline itself to make the correction, to tell the truth.
After all, the airline industry took a severe wallop after 9/11 and still suffers this many years after.
The airline has a responsibility to defend itself against the accusations brought against it such as insufficient security etc.
Everything reported to us was a lie.
The BIGGEST AIRLINE of all -- NORAD's wasn't flying either, as I recall, or not in the right direction, eh?
NORAD's fighters didn't go after highjacked planes, 'cause there were no highjacked planes.
As for the passengers, to my mind they can sadly be added to the "burnt offerings" of that Satanic day.
It requires no great stretch of the imagination; they were taken to some remote, or not so remote, place and summarily executed.
Let's ask Bush & Cheney, shall we?
Let's ask them right NOW!
911=USrael
10:20 AM
Len Hart said...anonymous sez...
Everything reported to us was a lie!
Yep! I am in complete agreement.
Secondly, in response to the issue of 'bodies.' Dr. Olmsted filed an FOIA request for an 'autopsy report.'
There were NO Arab names on it. Specifically, there were NO 'hijacker' names on it.
That may seem odd, but it is entirely consistent with the LACK OF EVIDENCE that ANY COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT struck the Pentagon.
As anonymous put it so succinctly:
EVERYTHING REPORTED TO US WAS A LIE!
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